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ACC/CON is best build for SS on 2 socket vanilla lmao..
I don't see how,as when higher lvl you need full acc to hit anything,ill agree with those ss who want to stay under 55 ,but past that good luck going solo without big acc,
 
ah yeah I believe stealth is unfair,as you cant kill what you don't see,and to defend it I need to spend coins,,i see your point ,and its strong ,but I think my point is a tad stronger,,,
Well, a stack of TS is like what, 250-300k? And it lasts you quite a while. If you don't want to spend gold on them, both SM and Cler can use them, for free! In large scale fights, stealth is next to useless because the whole place is literally filled with TS.
Not to mention, there's lots of "random" skills like Howl, Ray, Magma Bullet which reveal a cruz, or even DoT skills which you can use on a cruz so that he can't stealth, like Magma Bullet or even Poison Dart. The manu item Radiation actually has the best of both worlds.

Stealth is the least of worries when fighting a cruz.
 
sure in a big fight,but just the fact alone that other class's need to use or buy a certain skill just to see a cruss is still unfair in my eyes,,what about dw?guess I need to line the whole place with ts?pvp?lol its a joke against a cruss being a ss,they just go stealth till I'm stunned and slashed,magma ?lol another almost useless skill,it works sure but spending that moment using it could be your last anyway cruss just walk around it ,pko has been facing this stealth issue from day one,im sure I'm not the only one that thinks stealth is unfair,combine stealth with stun and a huge slash and any good crus is very hard to beat.anyway ...I still have to disagree leba,and I play crus also so I'm not as bias as some might think,
 
sure in a big fight,but just the fact alone that other class's need to use or buy a certain skill just to see a cruss is still unfair in my eyes,,what about dw?guess I need to line the whole place with ts?pvp?lol its a joke against a cruss being a ss,they just go stealth till I'm stunned and slashed,magma ?lol another almost useless skill,it works sure but spending that moment using it could be your last anyway cruss just walk around it ,pko has been facing this stealth issue from day one,im sure I'm not the only one that thinks stealth is unfair,combine stealth with stun and a huge slash and any good crus is very hard to beat.anyway ...I still have to disagree leba,and I play crus also so I'm not as bias as some might think,
Your points more-less concern 1v1 scenarios. Hate to break it to you, but some classes are just better against others. The fact that the Cruz - SS matchup is, in a 1v1 scenario, generally in the cruz's favor doesn't mean that Cruz is OP, nor does it mean that SS is a bad class, likewise, it doesn't mean that Cruz is a better class than SS in general.

I, being a cruz player myself, could come and ask for Champion nerfs, because I consider that slash/PR damage on me ridiculous, considering the fact that I can't break them at all. But then again, if I had a SM which would drop a cursed fire down and shred his Def, or a few magic classes which would burst him down when I stun him, the class no longer seems to be "OP".
A magic class player could also come asking for SS nerfs because it's "unfair" that the SS can keep whacking them while they're hardly able to move and can't even cast any skills. But then again, if they too had a SS to neutralize him, or a Cruz to one slash that pesky enemy SS, it would no longer seem like a big deal.

You get where I'm going with this... 90% of the PK in the server revolves around mazes, where there's few 1v1 moments and it's mostly based on teamwork. And those hardly showcase how OP a certain class is, because it mostly comes down to composition, number/gear difference and the actual strategies/execution or "skill".

So yes, though I agree that some classes may seem really strong on paper or in a 1v1 scenario, in actual big fights, it's a whole 'nother story.
 
Your points more-less concern 1v1 scenarios. Hate to break it to you, but some classes are just better against others. The fact that the Cruz - SS matchup is, in a 1v1 scenario, generally in the cruz's favor doesn't mean that Cruz is OP, nor does it mean that SS is a bad class, likewise, it doesn't mean that Cruz is a better class than SS in general.

I, being a cruz player myself, could come and ask for Champion nerfs, because I consider that slash/PR damage on me ridiculous, considering the fact that I can't break them at all. But then again, if I had a SM which would drop a cursed fire down and shred his Def, or a few magic classes which would burst him down when I stun him, the class no longer seems to be "OP".
A magic class player could also come asking for SS nerfs because it's "unfair" that the SS can keep whacking them while they're hardly able to move and can't even cast any skills. But then again, if they too had a SS to neutralize him, or a Cruz to one slash that pesky enemy SS, it would no longer seem like a big deal.

You get where I'm going with this... 90% of the PK in the server revolves around mazes, where there's few 1v1 moments and it's mostly based on teamwork. And those hardly showcase how OP a certain class is, because it mostly comes down to composition, number/gear difference and the actual strategies/execution or "skill".

So yes, though I agree that some classes may seem really strong on paper or in a 1v1 scenario, in actual big fights, it's a whole 'nother story.
I see your point,but still, unless all classes get a TS. skill,, stealth is still unfair, and be real,, take a poll and I bet the largest portion say crus are OP,yes I realize each class has its own good and bad points,that cruss that cant break that champ,a full acc ss would,and so on,but,thats not my point,my point is other classes have to buy ts to defend unless your a mage, thats still not cool in my mind,but so be it guess I have to agree to disagree,unless you can come up with a good reason why cruss get a skill I need to spend money to defend against properly
 
I see your point,but still, unless all classes get a TS. skill,, stealth is still unfair, and be real,, take a poll and I bet the largest portion say crus are OP,yes I realize each class has its own good and bad points,that cruss that cant break that champ,a full acc ss would,and so on,but,thats not my point,my point is other classes have to buy ts to defend unless your a mage, thats still not cool in my mind,but so be it guess I have to agree to disagree,unless you can come up with a good reason why cruss get a skill I need to spend money to defend against properly
Why is it unfair if only a few classes have TS as a skill? This actually stimulates teamplay and makes those classes (Who are, btw, very unpopular) "respected" and much needed in PK.
Yes, cruz is a strong class in many ways, but it's not OP. The same can be said for nearly all classes, except that they're not as popular and infamous at the same time as cruz so they're not talked about much. Ever played against a Voy in CA with CA set effect?
my point is other classes have to buy ts to defend unless your a mage, thats still not cool in my mind,but so be it guess I have to agree to disagree,unless you can come up with a good reason why cruss get a skill I need to spend money to defend against properly
Well, this argument of yours is pure nitpicking, but whatever. In theory, you need money to defend against all classes, you need Cakes or other Healing pots to pot through most classes' damage; you need Flash bombs to catch people, especially speedy SSs, you need Carrion Balls or Attack Pots to break a champ, you need Blessed Pots for all classes, ... Being "forced" to use an Item to defend from a certain class makes sense and it's a pretty easy way to add counterplay.
If stealth is removed, cruz loses all its defense mechanisms and you're left with a walking slasher that's as squishy as a SS. Compensation would be needed, and it would complicate things. This is why balance should generally be left untouched unless it's just in an awful state, as long as Cruz has counterplay, be it through items or skills (but it's far from limited to that), it's fine.
 
Why is it unfair if only a few classes have TS as a skill? This actually stimulates teamplay and makes those classes (Who are, btw, very unpopular) "respected" and much needed in PK.
Yes, cruz is a strong class in many ways, but it's not OP. The same can be said for nearly all classes, except that they're not as popular and infamous at the same time as cruz so they're not talked about much. Ever played against a Voy in CA with CA set effect?

Well, this argument of yours is pure nitpicking, but whatever. In theory, you need money to defend against all classes, you need Cakes or other Healing pots to pot through most classes' damage; you need Flash bombs to catch people, especially speedy SSs, you need Carrion Balls or Attack Pots to break a champ, you need Blessed Pots for all classes, ... Being "forced" to use an Item to defend from a certain class makes sense and it's a pretty easy way to add counterplay.
If stealth is removed, cruz loses all its defense mechanisms and you're left with a walking slasher that's as squishy as a SS. Compensation would be needed, and it would complicate things. This is why balance should generally be left untouched unless it's just in an awful state, as long as Cruz has counterplay, be it through items or skills (but it's far from limited to that), it's fine.
I don't see it as nitpicking.and lol in theory,im not the only one with this issue as I said its been talked about for years and years,and as many disagree with you as agree,but ill let this topic rest,but stay tuned haha I'm bout to write a post on mini bosses
 
I don't see it as nitpicking.and lol in theory,im not the only one with this issue as I said its been talked about for years and years,and as many disagree with you as agree,but ill let this topic rest,but stay tuned haha I'm bout to write a post on mini bosses
Yeah, both of us have been talking about the same things in our posts, might as well give it a break and agree to disagree.
 
Hi! Not sure if you were quoting me but just for clarity...

I said Acc - Agi, for the same reason I believe that Acc > Agi. What's the purpose of a "Sharpshooter" who can't even hit? You see, I know this as well my friend. Maybe what I did not clarify too much when I said Acc - Agi - Con was how I did it before. Max Acc, low Agi, rest Con. Why low Agi? In old game, I had enough +Agi from gears that I hit SS aspd cap with gun or bow. And yes, if you guys were wondering if there was aspd for SS, there was.. Go figure out how I did that. :)




Is it really unfair that crus has stealth? It's their skill, mate. It's like saying SS is unfair because we can seal AND cripple a crus unstealthed.

Cheers!

Newbie here, need some advise for my SS character.

From your reply, so u max Acc 1st, then agi.
As from your reply, your low agi is mean how much?

How much are speed is the speed cap for gun/bow?

Thanks
 
So is it safe to conclude for these items? (Keep in mind im at Lv65 lvling solo)
Armor: CA Frame (im currently using)>Apollo Frame
Gloves: +11Acc > CA Claw>EnigmaChest (im currently using)
Boots: CA Paw>EnigmaChest (im currently using)
Gun: 7Acc/7agi/7con (using only 7acc) >Uns65

Anyone could verify which i can use for armor/boots/gloves please? Thank you
Also which gloves is the +11acc? Raptor Gloves
Raptor gloves lv60 right?
 
So is it safe to conclude for these items? (Keep in mind im at Lv65 lvling solo)
Armor: CA Frame (im currently using)>Apollo Frame
Gloves: +11Acc > CA Claw>EnigmaChest (im currently using)
Boots: CA Paw>EnigmaChest (im currently using)
Gun: 7Acc/7agi/7con (using only 7acc) >Uns65

Anyone could verify which i can use for armor/boots/gloves please? Thank you
Also which gloves is the +11acc? Raptor Gloves
Raptor gloves lv60 right?

DO NOT GET APOLLO FRAME! You gonna use CA frame until you get a chance to get 0cp BD torso. Gloves should be the lvl 60 gloves with high accuracy and later on you wanna swap to Apollo Claw. As boots you wanna get CA paw and you could also get high statted Apollo Boots when u hit 75 (i'm using em currently since i get lot of extra stats from them). Gun basically just depends how u wanna build ur character either one of the 2 cardic or uns 65 is a good choise, I'm using uns 65 since i gain +100 max from it and only lose abt 12 aspd compared to cardic gun.
 
Source:http://pirate.mmosite.com/guide/sharpshooter_guide.shtml

My opinion about SS

Many may say SS are imba weak - I can only say in a war, every single trooper plays a part - An advisor gives advise, a soldier fight and dies (lol!), an assassin kills the superiors and so on.
SS to me plays a part of support and of course when theres a chance, kill -
SS is arguably the best hunter in game! If you are looking for fast ?? at late lvl, go for SS =P

Theres a few builds I would mention here in this guide:

Pure ACC - Agi build
Pure AGI - Acc build
ACC - Agi hybrid build
CON - Acc build

First of all before I would go into the builds, skill build is similar to all SS out there =X

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All skills go by sequence of which to learn/max first.

Skill Build:

Hunter:
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Dual shot lv2
Frozen arrow lv5
Ranged mastery lv10
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SS:
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Cripple lv10
Firearm Mastery lv10
Enfeeble lv10 (If u want to boss at lvl55, max enfeeble first before firearm, just leave firearm at lvl3)
Headshot lv10
Windwalk lv10
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Keep the rest of the points - don't ever learn rousing!

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Pets:

A pet is a need for all classes... As for SS, go for pure ACC pet, DON'T EVER get a agi pet - U will definitely regret =X

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Now back to builds, the first and most common build I would talk about is -

Stats Build:

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ACC - Agi hybrid build

This build is the "High damage output" build, easy to train and has the highest damage output from level 10 to level 60

Basically is to add ACC to 60 base then agi till attack speed with gun is about 110, then back to ACC, your source of damage to 80 base and back to agi.

By the time u reach 80 acc base, u are already lvl 65 =P

Pros & Cons:

Decent max damage and speed, average of both - Cannot kill champion with this build =X

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Pure ACC - Agi build (My build)

This build is the "Highest damage" build, if you are going for high damage and critical rate, go for this build

As it says pure ACC, adding ACC to 100 base is a must - By then you will be lvl 64 with 1 point remaining to agi and yay! Finally u have 1 point to agi which makes ur attack speed about 80 =.=

Most people may say having high agi to have a higher damage output/10second but that only works for lvl 60 and below because theres no more low defense mobbie, the last u can find is Guardian Angel (lv56) and that's all - Fortune, Summer and chill mobs have higher defense so to even damage them you need decent max attack of approximately 800 and above (Sorry agi SS pls restart your char if you intend to go further)

Pros & Cons:

High max damage, can kill champ with this build and 1 cripple + crit many other no con characters, Harder to train as u shoot like a snail and I really mean snail -

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Pure AGI - Acc build

Low damage, shoot like a machine gunner =X

ACC to 20 base then agi all the way to 100

Pros & Cons:

Low max damage, shoot really fast and easiest to train from level 1-59. Why lvl59? Because the last low def mobbie u can find is guardian north of thundoria which u can damage them =X

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CON - Acc build

A very unique build which FunkyGWilliams from bridge is testing on, I personally tested a lvl 56 pure con SS. U get 3.1k hp at lvl 56 with 86 con =X that is very high for a SS - By lvl 70 you should have about 5k hp with 65unseal armor +3 shining gem and 100 con.

This build is just for pvp purpose - to survive a slash from most SS that's all =P

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Now for Leveling, here's the guide:

Leveling Guide:

Lvl 10-21
Just shoot around while exploring icicle =P Try to find spots with trees where u can find and of course, for lvl 13 and above I suggest Snowy Bear Cubs(lv22) and Na?ve Snowdolls (lv21) cause they have low def and hp. You can also open lucky packets till u level up XD

Lvl 21-25
Mad boars (lv30) at Valhalla haven, paper mobs with 700 hp

Lvl 25-30
Playful snowdolls (lv34) low def and hp, easy for you but it has a small range, make use of frozen arrows and dual shot to kill it before it reaches u - To play safe u can also train at mad boar to 30

Lvl 30-40
I suggest you grind Ferocious Scorpions (lv38) till you can kill treants, training will be tough before SS but once u turn SS, things change completely

Lvl 40-45
Treants and only treants

Lvl 45-50
There is a spot with Undead Warrior (lvl52) west of thundoria castle (500, 1750)

Lvl 50-60
Go for guardian angels (lv56) but becareful they got range spells, use ur enfeeble and bring cakes along (If you go for the hybrid build, you can try forest hunters)

Lvl 60-65
Fortune isle or isle of chill, dependant on how lag u are in game and how strong your equipment is - take exp gained per 15mins and compare which is better
P.S. Fortune isle is a place where u start to see multi millions coming in - that is where u will earn ur unseal equipments =X

Lvl 65-77
I'm sorry but I think you have to grind Summer's Evil Tribal Warrior (lv72) =P I can ensure you that SS training in summer alone will be more enjoyable then you think - Every few minutes u will see 80k gold (MC) on the floor and occasionally an equipment drop =X and what's the best, you don't have to share them with others!


thx for sharing,,
im newbie SS :) nice to meet you all
 
DO NOT GET APOLLO FRAME! You gonna use CA frame until you get a chance to get 0cp BD torso. Gloves should be the lvl 60 gloves with high accuracy and later on you wanna swap to Apollo Claw. As boots you wanna get CA paw and you could also get high statted Apollo Boots when u hit 75 (i'm using em currently since i get lot of extra stats from them). Gun basically just depends how u wanna build ur character either one of the 2 cardic or uns 65 is a good choise, I'm using uns 65 since i gain +100 max from it and only lose abt 12 aspd compared to cardic gun.

Thanks for the info.. now i know what my equipment should be..
 
im lvl 21 hunter pure acc. at what level will i put agi? thanks
 
Depends on what are you aiming for? High level? DS? FC?
 
im lvl 21 hunter pure acc. at what level will i put agi? thanks
Acc:Agi 2:1 ratio is a fairy good budget build. You will lack some dmg until you max acc, but the extra attack speed should make everything less sluggish.
 
I want to make serious mula. I am a champ lvl 57 now (I have 60 con and rest str, uns 55, will buy str rings for 60 and prolly a pet). I think I can manage to get plvled to 60 but after that will I be able to do it alone at a fast rate on fortune? HUH?
unlikely unless you have very high attack, best bring a voy with you on fortune and do what tanks do best,,,,,sit
 
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