Problems with P2W system

[Shing]

Zankza, you keep saying we want a P2W server.... do we really say that or you just want to think we say that?
I have no problems with item mall, but adding too much item to it is a bad idea. People started to quit ToP and try private servers, because of the P2W players. Now here we are again.
Some people already paid a lot of money for Item Mall and you know it. They will rule the server, they are already doing CA/DW while other players are just trying to be noob, leveling at 40, feeling the nostalgia, etc. The gap is even bigger than before, because these P2W players rushing hard to be the best and a level limit is not enough to help on this problem.

Trust me, NO ONE will complain if you make an improved version of original ToP. Add some Item Mall items to bosses, quests or i don't care what. Just don't repeat the mistakes of IGG. Ty.

 

[Silfro]

The problem is the people are used to p2w. They dont want anything else.

They are going to cry if they spend lots of money and still cant one slash everyone.

 

[Vladist]

Trust me, NO ONE will complain if you make an improved version of original ToP

this i agree with, the rest, not so much.. server isn't P2W right now, the item mall items are mostly luxury items and they are so priced that you can actually farm up some money and purchase the ones you really need, like HB and fairies. you can even get HBs from farming fortune tree and nss... sooo... i don't see it. mallers only rule a server when there are OP untradable items in the mall

 

[Silfro]

What P2W we have here? Please explain?
Because.

If you look into TOP players, the first 10 sure never malled here
I even sold Nanas and HB on Argent market to them for quite nice price
So. Why would maller buy Nanas and HB on market if they have Mall?

Pay 2 win = When something makes you stronger/gives you huge lead by using real money and youre only able to get the item by buying it from someone.

Let me list few things which makes you stronger and people can not receive unless they farm money for days/weeks until they can afford something.

- Unique necks and rings - Non-mallers wont get 2 pair of lv 60 rings within next 6 months unless they have a very nice friend.
- Gems - not in game yet but we all know this is pay 2 win.
- strenghtening scroll + cata
- EQ cata + stabilizer
- intense magic

 

[Vladist]

Well the item shop prices are retarded high

i can agree with this, candies and angelic wings being the most retardedly priced, along with fork. the scrolls are okay priced

Non-mallers wont get 2 pair of lv 60 rings within next 6 months

how can you say this when prices for Unecks and rings haven't even been decided.

 

[Silfro]

necks 249 and rings 149. I think this are the original prices from TOP. But in top you got 2000 item shop points for around 100. Here you get 50% less. Thatswhy the prices are 2x higher than at top.

Rings 15$ until you get what you want you have to spend like 150-200 if youre unlucky.

 

[Silfro]

This thread is not about prices. This thread is about @Shing who has a request/wish

 

[Gr33d]

What P2W we have here? Please explain?
Because.

If you look into TOP players, the first 10 sure never malled here
I even sold Nanas and HB on Argent market to them for quite nice price
So. Why would maller buy Nanas and HB on market if they have Mall?

Just because you sold something from mall to someone in game doesnt mean that person doesnt mall lol.

 

[Vladist]

but this isn't TOP.. you can't make a prediction like that and there isn't any pricing yet.. i don't think zankza would be mad enough to overprice a RANDOM Uneck/Uring scroll

 

[Vladist]

Just because you sold something from mall to someone in game doesnt mean that person doesnt mall lol.

true, just means they wanted to save points and use in game money

 

[leonardo suave]

i agree. its hard buy Rum to buy rings and neck, its very expensive and the sever there arent events , in the future only maller will have gens and nice equips........today i saw in chat a person selling many rings so when there is other itens in mall more expansivi the mallers will have a lote too.

 

[leonardo suave]

in my opinion this sever will ends like top because of mallers and iten mall very expensive to people

 

[leonardo suave]

but for you is 5$, im my case i need pay 3 times more than you because i need pay in BRL and arent everbody have money to buy Rum...this game will be than top, and everbody know what happened with game.

 

[Silfro]

in my opinion this sever will ends like top because of mallers and iten mall very expensive to people

This server will last a year maximum 2 anyway. Everything goes offline one day

 

[Topcaribes]

very expensive prices and Rum package does not come any bonus along with purchase as this will motivate maller and the server economy, lack very thing at the mall, the game not is just lvl more too PK and PVP, MVM this is the soul of Game
You need to create a way that the person does not maller can buy items in the shop also to motivate the economy,
put purchase with reputation would not be bad idea or return to the pirate club

 

[Gr33d]

but this isn't TOP.. you can't make a prediction like that and there isn't any pricing yet.. i don't think zankza would be mad enough to overprice a RANDOM Uneck/Uring scroll

The prices silfro mentioned above are in fact correct if that's what you were referring to. They were placed in item mall earlier today after a restart.

 

[Draconus]

Right now, to get all stuff which is in mall you already need around 300 usd. And thats about 3k rums, which is at least 60m gold, if you really think being 60m gold ahead + time saved from normal players is not p2w, then clearly you are one of people who malled everything. It's quite obvious that server will end up dead in no time just because someone's greedy.

 

[Akainu]

Right now, to get all stuff which is in mall you already need around 300 usd. And thats about 3k rums, which is at least 60m gold, if you really think being 60m gold ahead + time saved from normal players is not p2w, then clearly you are one of people who malled everything. It's quite obvious that server will end up dead in no time just because someone's greedy.

not quite!!! you see even if u malled 3k rums what are u ganna use 'em for? caz its not like u can buy uns 65 from mall or anything. buying x99 nanas or hb will sure save u time but it wont make u "OP". and just for the record the top 5-10 top ppl here are not only hardcore mallers but they also are hardcore non-lifers, u see what am tryna say?

 

[Vladist]

yo i just logged in, and saw the prices... what the actual fuck 550 rum for Uneck and rings? :| .. i think that is waaay over doing it... that's 6.2m for a Uneck and 3.7m per ring ....... that is retarded. 13.6m total? no one even has that much money really ... not to mention that the price of rum will go up as more cash becomes available in the server... this is dumb... i can totally see this server's future already lol

 

[ImCris]

yo i just logged in, and saw the prices... what the actual fuck 550 rum for Uneck and rings? :| .. i think that is waaay over doing it... that's 6.2m for a Uneck and 3.7m per ring ....... that is retarded. 13.6m total? no one even has that much money really ... not to mention that the price of rum will go up as more cash becomes available in the server... this is dumb... i can totally see this server's future already lol

its zanka server, what you expected?