What class are you going to play?

[Brother]

Hello guys, one little questions over here, what class do you think will be the strongest endgame class?

 

[LukycaBlack]

Hello guys, one little questions over here, what class do you think will be the strongest endgame class?

It will all depend on builds.

 

[Hillarien]

It is hit & run SS moreless, you're useless in teamfight since damage outut is low on low level with no good items. But on higher level it will pay back what you were missing in early game.

But on higher level SS with DPS build wil go towards Acc/acc anyway. With buffs, appolo clawstone and some wind gems it is possible to reach 170 aspd,
while having over 2k attack, and i am talking about level where crusaders won't even have 1400 atk. 1200 ish at best.

As for original i think that it should at least cover one role or be at least at single job better then it's rival. As for hit&run, what do you mean? Kiting with basic attack in ToP? Should be absolutly perfect ping and even then it is so cluncky that a single packet lose will result in death in ca.

Best example of being original is Agi Cruz. He lack the damage that slasher build have, he also is not so good later on, in fact his use at lategame is pretty minimum. So why agi cruz? Well, he can dodge dw1 and 2 earlier then normal cruz, so he can farm chests and kals there earlier. On top of that, he can even dodge and survive ca on bd wave if he got good enough gear. So you see, not a class everyone would like to main, but he have some positive moments. I don't see where agi ss stand there, but maybe you can tell me more =D

 

[Jasper]

Yeah builds but if you also take into consideration the lack of slots, you can cross out some classes that could be, well, maybe i should say, wont be the strongest?

One of which is a champ.

But to answer, in my opinion. JUST MY OPINION. Any of the 3 magic class. (Except if you put them in a 1v1 match against a SS, this applies for clerics or voyagers. Only applicable to SMs if the SS got to seal first this will depend on the skill of the pilots ) Because there won't be much con for the opposing side because you can only put colo gem which would add a couple of hundred hp which can be nuked by a high spr magic class. I mean, there isn't anything to defend against them. You can add a couple of hp using a glowing gem ( 100 hp ) or go con mode and that's it. Or maybe go spr mode? ( rofl ). This is only my opinion, feel free to make a point against me. Just plz no flaming coz dis is the internet and internet ppl hurts me so bad :<

 

[LukycaBlack]

But on higher level SS with DPS build wil go towards Acc/acc anyway. With buffs, appolo clawstone and some wind gems it is possible to reach 170 aspd,
while having over 2k attack, and i am talking about level where crusaders won't even have 1400 atk. 1200 ish at best.

As for original i think that it should at least cover one role or be at least at single job better then it's rival. As for hit&run, what do you mean? Kiting with basic attack in ToP? Should be absolutly perfect ping and even then it is so cluncky that a single packet lose will result in death in ca.

Best example of being original is Agi Cruz. He lack the damage that slasher build have, he also is not so good later on, in fact his use at lategame is pretty minimum. So why agi cruz? Well, he can dodge dw1 and 2 earlier then normal cruz, so he can farm chests and kals there earlier. On top of that, he can even dodge and survive ca on bd wave if he got good enough gear. So you see, not a class everyone would like to main, but he have some positive moments. I don't see where agi ss stand there, but maybe you can tell me more =D

Well as of hit & run, since doing with bow you are faster, so basically you are doing slow down of enemy hit once or twice and run so you don't get hitted, it is moreless cowardly tactic but in 2008 almost 9 I had done my agi SS, it went full agi with a little con and acc, manage to hit 2k, and miss alot of crusaders basics. So unless I was stunned I gotten out with around 50% hp and dead enemy behind me. It needs alot of practice for playing it because it is same like doing battle cleric. It won't do insane ammount of damage but if played prperly you're just leaving bodies behind. I admire every acc SS but it is not SS that is meant to survive. Only to make damage output. And I wanna survive. And someone mentioned PvE, you do get a bit more chance to stand in PvE, but your damage output on low level is making you useless. But who knows, I will just do the role like I did 8 years ago. 3 slots, 3 SS's, 3 different builds. We'll see which will work best this time.

+ never invest points in rousing on SS
And as I said at start of topic, I never played any other class beside SS. All these years that I played ToP I only had SS's.

 

[Hillarien]

Well as of hit & run, since doing with bow you are faster, so basically you are doing slow down of enemy hit once or twice and run so you don't get hitted, it is moreless cowardly tactic but in 2008 almost 9 I had done my agi SS, it went full agi with a little con and acc, manage to hit 2k, and miss alot of crusaders basics. So unless I was stunned I gotten out with around 50% hp and dead enemy behind me. It needs alot of practice for playing it because it is same like doing battle cleric. It won't do insane ammount of damage but if played prperly you're just leaving bodies behind. I admire every acc SS but it is not SS that is meant to survive. Only to make damage output. And I wanna survive. And someone mentioned PvE, you do get a bit more chance to stand in PvE, but your damage output on low level is making you useless. But who knows, I will just do the role like I did 8 years ago. 3 slots, 3 SS's, 3 different builds. We'll see which will work best this time.

+ never invest points in rousing on SS

Interesting, but could you tell me more? Like, if you say that crusaders did miss on you, then you are able to survive a full stun of cruz in ca? I suppose you should have a decent gear+ some decent con for that too.In case of SS decent gear mean, BD torso or CA framestone, in context of this server ofc.
I had expirience with Con/acc ss and acc/con with decent gems. It does work great if your build have enough numbers. but otherwise you have to outstat the oposition.

Anyway, if any random newbies reading this conversations, do not start with agi ss as your first character, you won't be able to level up on your own efficiently.

 

[LukycaBlack]

Interesting, but could you tell me more? Like, if you say that crusaders did miss on you, then you are able to survive a full stun of cruz in ca? I suppose you should have a decent gear+ some decent con for that too.In case of SS decent gear mean, BD torso or CA framestone, in context of this server ofc.
I had expirience with Con/acc ss and acc/con with decent gems. It does work great if your build have enough numbers. but otherwise you have to outstat the oposition.

Anyway, if any random newbies reading this conversations, do not start with agi ss as your first character, you won't be able to level up on your own efficiently.

What he said. Do not start with AGI SS.
I think I said in text before if I am not stunned I can get out with 50% HP and dead body behind.

 

[Brother]

Anyway, if any random newbies reading this conversations, do not start with agi ss as your first character, you won't be able to level up on your own efficiently

What is your suggestion for first class/character?

 

[Jasper]

What is your suggestion for first class/character?

I'm no hillarien but I believe the best out there is a voyager. Could PvP, could PvE, could farm the LB Quest. No questions here

 

[LukycaBlack]

Depends on what you like and what class you usually chose in other games. I really like bows in real life that's why I started with SS. But I'd say maybe cruz? It is most expensive one but most needed one and lot of people play it so you can learn easily by asking. Or maybe even Vogaer since it has good def and all you need to do is conch.

 

[Jasper]

My opinion is solely based on efficiency of the char when it comes to building up your main, or even gearing/maining your voy.

 

[LukycaBlack]

It really depends on how are you orientated IMO. I've chosen SS because I am crazy in love for hunters and dragons, And since you can't have pet dragon I went for bow. So it turned out I am hunter/SS.

 

[Jasper]

Well yeah, he didn't specify whether the first class is for efficiency or for whatever. xD so yeah, those are the 2 answers for your question @Brother

 

[xRazor]

Every class is good and can be great af if you spend enough time/resources into it. Like, i just red that champs might not be the strongest. Erm... to be honest, champs were beasts in top1. And i'm not talking about the 2x 1h sword ones. Champ is actualy one of the greatest class to fight cruss with. For example Meister3, he used 2h sword for reaaaly long time and he was one of the best sunset players. Even in the early stage, hitting 140 att speed on zerk with a champ is not that hard. Con build champ that is able to hit 140 att speed with decent level might be pain in the ass. I love champs, i've always used them as my main char and i'm going to main one here too. I'd say every class rox. Especialy if you have a bounch of team mates to play with you.

 

[LukycaBlack]

Every class is good and can be great af if you spend enough time/resources into it. Like, i just red that champs might not be the strongest. Erm... to be honest, champs were beasts in top1. And i'm not talking about the 2x 1h sword ones. Champ is actualy one of the greatest class to fight cruss with. For example Meister3, he used 2h sword for reaaaly long time and he was one of the best sunset players. Even in the early stage, hitting 140 att speed on zerk with a champ is not that hard. Con build champ that is able to hit 140 att speed with decent level might be pain in the ass. I love champs, i've always used them as my main char and i'm going to main one here too. I'd say every class rox. Especialy if you have a bounch of team mates to play with you.

I am not grammar nazi but this red actually bothers me alot. It is read but you read it like "red".

Edit: Champs are amazing. Hitting 100 without any stat point or item it has 4k+ hp. Investing in CON will get him to like 5,5? Or something close to it. But than getting speed and damage output and succeding in that will make really good champ that will be such beast.

 

[Jasper]

Every class is good and can be great af if you spend enough time/resources into it. Like, i just red that champs might not be the strongest. Erm... to be honest, champs were beasts in top1. And i'm not talking about the 2x 1h sword ones. Champ is actualy one of the greatest class to fight cruss with. For example Meister3, he used 2h sword for reaaaly long time and he was one of the best sunset players. Even in the early stage, hitting 140 att speed on zerk with a champ is not that hard. Con build champ that is able to hit 140 att speed with decent level might be pain in the ass. I love champs, i've always used them as my main char and i'm going to main one here too. I'd say every class rox. Especialy if you have a bounch of team mates to play with you.

+1, for the every class rox, but imo, 2h swords are really better than dual swords for champs for the passive skills. It would be good against crus, and we're talking about end game, they have no defense against any magic meaning they can be nuked by them, considering their skill to stun their enemy, i'd say would only be usable once or twice in a duel. If you can't kill an SM or Cleric with that duration, you're as good as dead. But again, We still can't say anything atm since we won't know until the actual end game which won't be soon, I don't have a thing against champs coz i like how they slash with dual swords ( They jump and do slash in a cross mid-air lmao )

 

[Cidpliskit]

wasn't sure where to add this, but was rings and ms neck in this version of top I seem to remember using them in top1 but not 100% sure.

 

[Jasper]

wasn't sure where to add this, but was rings and ms neck in this version of top I seem to remember using them in top1 but not 100% sure.

I positively remember those slots, the fucking expensive rings and EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE ms necks were available in my early days of PKO ( The first private server of ToP )

 

[Cidpliskit]

to my second question then if I'm correct it was item mall only right?

 

[Brother]

@Jasper @LukycaBlack Thank you very much for your explanation. I'm sure it will help me and a lot of people.