What class are you going to play?

[Anthony]

hiiiiiii

 

[Neymark95]

Going for that SS, most fun class for me..I used to play crus but i got bored of it, its mechanics are just so simple, stun > slash and attack till someone dies lol.. not much effort in that :/

 

[Hillarien]

for cruz u go rage fiery lust and yes most likely 2k will be the highest damage problem is on crus at least getting attack speed early is gonna be very difficult to reach 210 unless u invest in agi stats.

personally this server is gonna be more skill than stealth slash stealth and i like that a lot and magic classes will be more useless now for seals so pk is gonna be better in my opinion.

Replying specially to clear confusion for players who don't really understand how gems work. No, you don't go for fiery gems. On server like that, money is not that easy, so it just won't worth it at all. 4 atk per fiery? if you are looking at dual level 3, then you are wasting 14 ref gems to get 24 bonus atk and considering how defence work, it would be 180 bonus slash damage on 0 PR and 144 bonus damage on 20 PR. I won't deny, in rare cases it is a question of being able to oneshot with slash or not, in FC that is, anywhere else it is completly irrelevant.
As for lust gems, if we will have reliable source of pliers, then yeh, we can forge them for the sole purpose of not missing on SS/Voys and missing a bit less on Isle of Fortune monsters.


TL;DR: Fiery gems are garbage, Lust gems better to save for later on.

 

[LukycaBlack]

1 Voys will be beasts.
2 crusaders will be kinda held down, for the first months.
3 Battle clerics combines support and good harass
4 SS'es requires good gemming and build knowledge. We will see mostly thrash sses.
5 are annoying and thats all, very dependent class.
6 champs, requires good gemming, knowledge and team. We will see mostly thrash champs.

i myself am between 1 and 2.
What you think?

Hunting for 3

 

[Cidpliskit]

anyone here from old penguin server

 

[Light]

Replying specially to clear confusion for players who don't really understand how gems work. No, you don't go for fiery gems. On server like that, money is not that easy, so it just won't worth it at all. 4 atk per fiery? if you are looking at dual level 3, then you are wasting 14 ref gems to get 24 bonus atk and considering how defence work, it would be 180 bonus slash damage on 0 PR and 144 bonus damage on 20 PR. I won't deny, in rare cases it is a question of being able to oneshot with slash or not, in FC that is, anywhere else it is completly irrelevant.
As for lust gems, if we will have reliable source of pliers, then yeh, we can forge them for the sole purpose of not missing on SS/Voys and missing a bit less on Isle of Fortune monsters.


TL;DR: Fiery gems are garbage, Lust gems better to save for later on.

Yeah my bad i was actually thinking of the improved fiery in the foxlv server i forgot the original stats on fiery gem in foxlv it had +16 attack damage.

 

[Brother]

hiiiiiii

hiii

 

[McLovin]

Im so excited to play as SS. Someone have a decent guide for? Specially how to use my stats points

 

[Abelito]

Yeah my bad i was actually thinking of the improved fiery in the foxlv server i forgot the original stats on fiery gem in foxlv it had +16 attack damage.

To be honest for pvp I would still use fiery over lust. Don't get me wrong I still think Lust is better DPS-wise but autoattacking in this game is like stunning yourself.
So against ppl who at least try to predict how you're going to move, autoattacking can get you killed pretty easy. Having said that, I'd still get lust before fiery for pve but later I'd trade them for fiery. I think it depends whether lv 3 lust in gloves is good enough and if it's easy enough to get but if I remember right with +20 hitrate you could hit pretty much everything pve-wise so maybe +15 is good enough.

 

[Protego]

BD Eye and Rage will be the obvious choice in the swords..

 

[Leba]

To be honest for pvp I would still use fiery over lust. Don't get me wrong I still think Lust is better DPS-wise but autoattacking in this game is like stunning yourself.
So against ppl who at least try to predict how you're going to move, autoattacking can get you killed pretty easy. Having said that, I'd still get lust before fiery for pve but later I'd trade them for fiery. I think it depends whether lv 3 lust in gloves is good enough and if it's easy enough to get but if I remember right with +20 hitrate you could hit pretty much everything pve-wise so maybe +15 is good enough.

Dual lv3 fiery is +24 attack, which is legitimately close to nothing. Although, yeah, those few points of damage more on slash might help, but being able to do more attacks on monsters and on stunned players, thanks to lust, works wonders.
Early on, lusts may not seem useful, but with lv2-3 lusts in both swords and in gloves, perhaps adding a pair of drakans, I'd say you could melee crusaders too, since the only sources of dodge will be shadow, wind and deftness.
Of course, BD eye tops lust by a long shot later on, but whether or not you'll get Bd gems is too relative and has way too many factors involved, so I think lust is a worthwhile investment.

 

[LukycaBlack]

Lust will be good choice since SS's are best at their AGI mode in old ToP. And you will need that HR more less in everything so it seems reasonable to start with.

 

[Hillarien]

Lust will be good choice since SS's are best at their AGI mode in old ToP. And you will need that HR more less in everything so it seems reasonable to start with.

No offence, but i smell bullshit. Agi ss? for real? With 2 slots cap and 1x rates? For what purpose lol.

 

[Leba]

No offence, but i smell bullshit. Agi ss? for real? With 2 slots cap and 1x rates? For what purpose lol.

Probably better for PvE than acc SS, and early on, when people don't have dodge, he might be able to still hit people if they're crippled. But honestly, that's the only positive side I see to it, other than that it gets outclassed by Acc or Con SS in nearly every other aspect, especially later on.

 

[Jasper]

Damn this mainstream-hating guy that I am. Cleric with the lowest vote on poll makes me wanna go for it. LOL. Would be a freaking beast early on at almost every pvp map ( fc/ds/dw ), CA is not included depending if the blind CA is implemented making it virtually useless.

 

[Leba]

Damn this mainstream-hating guy that I am. Cleric with the lowest vote on poll makes me wanna go for it. LOL. Would be a freaking beast early on at almost every pvp map ( fc/ds/dw ), CA is not included depending if the blind CA is implemented making it virtually useless.

Well, yeah, unlike SMs, Clerics are essentially useless in CA, as their damage can easily be potted through.
But outside of CA, they're pretty great. Speed buff makes them generally fast and hard to chase if you don't have slows or you're speed buffed as well; they deal pretty decent magic damage even though it's single target, and are pretty hard to take down, CA or no CA.
Additionally, the amount of support they can provide with immense heals, buffs and revs is also great. Generally, a pretty nice class, but it's quite underrated and can by no means work solo, even early on when it's stronger than most other classes.

 

[Hillarien]

Probably better for PvE than acc SS, and early on, when people don't have dodge, he might be able to still hit people if they're crippled. But honestly, that's the only positive side I see to it, other than that it gets outclassed by Acc or Con SS in nearly every other aspect, especially later on.

Better for pve? the single thing i can see that is better about agi ss in pve is dodge. Not like i never thought about it before, i used to main like every class at different times, but amount of aspd and dodge he is getting per agi just not worth it. He will deal more damage as full acc, especially considering how defence work in this game. As for dodge, you should think about who you going to dodge first, especally considering that leveling is hard. Harder then original top even, post 70. Basically, other then being original, i see no other reason to go for agi build.

And agi mode? Pet exp rate is 1x, imagine how much it going to take lol to get all kind of pets lvl 41.

 

[Leba]

Better for pve? the single thing i can see that is better about agi ss in pve is dodge. Not like i never thought about it before, i used to main like every class at different times, but amount of aspd and dodge he is getting per agi just not worth it. He will deal more damage as full acc, especially considering how defence work in this game. As for dodge, you should think about who you going to dodge first, especally considering that leveling is hard. Harder then original top even, post 70. Basically, other then being original, i see no other reason to go for agi build.

And agi mode? Pet exp rate is 1x, imagine how much it going to take lol to get all kind of pets lvl 41.

I fully agree with you that it more than likely won't be even close to other builds, more or less due to the reasons you've stated above. But I'm always up for seeing something new and original. It might be worse than any other SS build out there, but on the first page he said he mains SS, so cut him some slack, he might know what he's doing, he said he likes Bows too, so that ought to be interesting.

Moreover, although it might be worse than other builds, anything that's not completely troll can work here, and SSs do benefit from agi. There might just be something it's useful for or something unique it provides.

With a proper build and knowledge of the class, you can make anything work.

 

[LukycaBlack]

No offence, but i smell bullshit. Agi ss? for real? With 2 slots cap and 1x rates? For what purpose lol.

It is hit & run SS moreless, you're useless in teamfight since damage outut is low on low level with no good items. But on higher level it will pay back what you were missing in early game.

 

[LukycaBlack]

Probably better for PvE than acc SS, and early on, when people don't have dodge, he might be able to still hit people if they're crippled. But honestly, that's the only positive side I see to it, other than that it gets outclassed by Acc or Con SS in nearly every other aspect, especially later on.

In early game it will be eays to hit and dodge, even tho it is not worth it, but later on will pay off as I stated abouve. And it gets outclassed by ACC SS without a problem true.